7. Question about
collateral attacks.
In other words, suppose a
state granted that proper service only required the defendant to
receive the summons, and not a copy of the complaint. Under Glannon’s
reading, it would seem that 4(e)(2) would also then allow the state
rule to substitute for 4(c)(1)?
A. First, just a clarification. The issue concerns
two ways of reading 4(e)(1), not 4(e)(2), for it is 4(e)(1) that says
that service is OK if it is "pursuant to the law of the state in which
the district court is located, or in which service is effected, for the
service of a summons upon the defendant in an action brought in the
courts of general jurisdiction of the State." The question is whether
those 4(e)(1) state standards, when relied upon, also apply to who may
serve and so would trump the standard in 4(c)(2).
That said, your question is a good one -- Why draw the line at who may
serve? Why not expand it to what should be served? I guess
the argument against such an expansion would be that 4(e)(1)
says that "service upon an individual ... may be effected in
any judicial district of the United States" pursuant to state law, and
it is plausible to understand the law governing what is served not as
law about how service may be effected. But that's just a guess.
9. Question about
R. 5
Q. I understood what you said in class about Rule
4 applying to service on third parties, but Glannon seems to contradict
you starting at the bottom of 307 and continuing on the top of 308. It
states that "virtually all such papers may be served under the more
flexible provisions of Fed. R. Civ. P. 5...." What does this mean with
respect to what you said in class?
A. All I can say is that Glannon takes it back on
pp. 315-16, where he says that 3rd part complaints must abide by the
standards of R 4. I guess that is why he said "virtually." But the truth is that R
4 standards do not merely apply to 3rd party complaints, but also to
all pleadings served on someone who has not yet had any notice of the
suit, such as new parties joined to counterclaims.
12. Where's my
domicile?
Q. The discussion on domicile makes me question
where exactly I am domiciled. There are 4 different states I could be
domiciled in--
1) I just switched my driver's license from NC to VA and I intend to
live here for 3 yrs of law school-- but not sure where I'll live after
that.
2) I went to college in NC and worked for 6 months there and paid NC
income taxes. I briefly had a NC drivers license.
3) I am registered to vote in Georgia, where my mother and brother
live. I went to high school there, and one year of college, but I do
not ever intend to live in GA again.
4) On forms I claim my "permanent home address" with my father, who
lives in Las Vegas, NV. I've spent the last 2 summers and all holidays
there for the last 2 years. My car is registered in NV and I have NV
plates.
Where is my domicile?
If this is too tricky, it's okay. I just thought it was an interesting
situation.
A. The domicile of (emancipated) students is
always a problem, but your case sounds particularly difficult.
Curiously, you cannot have no domicile, so if you were to
sue or be sued by a Virginian, North Carolinian, Georgian or Nevadan in
federal court (under state law) the issue of your domicile would have
to be decided. It certainly is true that you were domiciled in Georgia at one
time and you would keep that domicile until you established a new one.
My gut tells me that you did establish a Virginia domicile, but
my gut is no better than yours on this matter.
13. Many
questions about diversity and alienage jurisdiction.
If you buy a product that comes with some kind of agreement (let's say one of those little warranties in the box) that has a clause that any legal action you take against them must take place in Alaska, is this enforceable in light of what we've learned, and you have NOTHING to do with Alaska and didn't get the product there? I've heard of these, and it sounds like it would allow a defendant to manipulate the system by forcing litigation in its own home state, where it may have favor- even though it shifts the inconvenience to the plaintiff.
A.But there is another problem in your question. It
seems that the parties
did not really bargain for the choice of venue provision. Instead the
purchaser was simply presented with the provision after having
bought the product. The movement for enforcing choice of venue
provisions is predicated on
the idea that parties’ bargain should be respected. But bargaining
seems absent here, which makes enforcement less likely - although one
could argue that if the consumer did not like the provision he could
have returned the product.
28. Question
about the enforcement of federal judgments in federal court.
Q.
A.
First of all, an action to enforce a judgment issued by a federal court is a state-law action, even when the judgment issued by the federal court concerned an action under federal law. Indeed Rule 69, which allows for supplementary proceedings to execute a federal judgment, specifies that the applicable law for enforcement shall be the law of the state where the federal court is located. (In truth, there is a bit of federal law on the topic, for example when theWhat is more, there is no independent ground for
federal
subject matter jurisdiction for the suit on the federal judgment,
unless the
parties are diverse. For example, assume that a
BUT there is ancillary jurisdiction for a state law action executing the federal judgment as long as it is understood as a continuation of the suit in federal court that rendered the judgment. How long can the successful plaintiff wait to bring these proceedings before that court? Very long. The only requirement is the limitations on such suits under the applicable state law, and that deadline often does not arise for years. So apparently you can go to a federal court years after it issued a judgment on your behalf and sue on the judgment. It will still be considered a “continuation” of the old federal suit, even though the action would surely have a different file number and a different judge assigned to it.
What is more, it turns out there is a method for the certification of a federal judgment in a federal court other than the one where it was issued and that new federal court too can enforce the judgment (see 28 USC section 1963). So, provided that there is certification, which can be done, once again, well after the issuance of the federal judgment, the suit to enforce the federal judgment can be brought in virtually any federal court. There is still ancillary jurisdiction, because it is still thought to be the continuation of the first federal suit. It is as if that first suit had now been transferred. (Of course there must be personal jurisdiction in that new federal court, for example, though the presence of the defendant’s assets in that state.)
But keep in mind that the fact remains that the
suit to
execute the federal judgment does not have federal subject matter
jurisdiction
on its own. It still cannot be successfully removed from state to
federal court,
for example. It is only allowed in federal court because it is
considered the
continuation of the prior federal proceedings.
Q.
Assume that an insurance claim adjuster for the defendant has taken a measurement of skid marks at the scene of the accident. The police have also taken measurements, which are shorter. The plaintiff believes that the police’s measurements are wrong. The defendant believes, or pretends to believe, that the police’s measurements are right. If the plaintiff asks the defendant for the length of the marks in an interrogatory, the defendant simply provides the police measurements. If the defendant asks for the adjuster’s measurements, the defendant asserts the work-product privilege.
We know that it is very likely that the plaintiff could overcome the work-product privilege because of the usefulness of the adjuster’s measurements for impeachment. That was the main point of the discussion in class. But why can’t the plaintiff simply depose the insurance adjuster and ask him the length of the skid marks? Isn’t that a simple way to get the information without having to overcome the work-product privilege at all? After all, facts are not privileged…right?
A.
It’s best to begin by identifying how this scenario is different from the normal work-product situation. Usually the person creating work product is not a witness to the events being litigated. Instead, he simply interviews those witnesses. As we know, even though the work product is protected, the witnesses themselves can always be deposed by the other side and must state truthfully their view of the facts. This follows from the general notion that facts (or really a person’s views about the facts) are not protected simply because they have been expressed in work product.
But this is a situation where the creator of the work product is himself a witness. This creates a tension. On the one hand the measurement of the skid marks is a fact about the case observed by a witness (the adjuster). It should be discoverable. On the other hand it is also the content of work product and so should be subject to a qualified protection.
What to do? After looking into the matter it has become clear that the adjuster can be deposed as a witness. When deposed, he – like any other witness – must state what he believes the skid marks were. A more problematic situation is if he, under the influence of the defendant, came to the conclusion that his original measurement was wrong and adopted the police report as his view. If so, it might be the case that the original measurement could be gotten only by overcoming the work-product privilege (I’m not sure about this). But it is clear that if the adjuster believes his measurements, the plaintiff can get them simply by asking the adjuster in discovery.
The question was also brought up in class how we
would treat
the adjuster if we categorized him as a non-testifying expert. After
all, their
opinions can be found out only given an extraordinary showing. This
device did
not sound right to me and so I said that courts would refuse to
categorize him
as an expert. But that still leaves open the question of the
witness-observations of a genuine expert. After all, it is conceivable
that a
genuine expert might observe a case as a witness first-hand. As it
turns out,
in such a case, the opinions of the expert are discoverable as a normal
witness. This was news to me.
32. Question
about "facts" not being protected by the work-product privilege.
Q.
Another tension was raised in class that really
bothered me
regarding interviews with lay-witness. My notes indicate that: (1) On
one hand,
the underlying facts of the
work-product are discoverable. (2)
On the other, the content of the
work-product is not
discoverable. If this is wrong, stop right here.
So let's say plaintiff-counsel P informally interviews lay-witness W. W
says
"The light was green." However, P does not pass judgment regarding
the truth of W's statement -- that is, he does not believe or
disbelieve the
statement.
If defense-counsel D asks in an interrogatory "Did W tell
you the light was green?" It appears that P can refuse to answer
because
he would divulge the content of the work-product. But let's say D asks
in an
interrogatory "Does W believe the
light was green?" It's not clear to me how this problem should be
decided.
On one hand, this is an end-run around the work-product rule -- how
could P
know W believes the light is green unless W told P? On the other hand,
W's
saying that the light was green presupposes his belief that the light
was
green, making this an underlying fact. Moreover, this information could
be
easily discovered through deposition, albeit at a much high cost. So
what
result?
A.
Your question leads me into a bit of philosophy.
You’re right that requiring P to answer what the witness believes about the light would be an end-run around work-product privilege. It is really no different than asking what the content of the work product is, which, as we have seen, is not allowed under Hickman.
What made this seem like a problem to you is your understanding of the word “fact.” As I noted in class, the idea that facts are not protected by the work-product privilege can be confusing. By “facts” what is really meant is the view about the facts of the person questioned. Why is this so? Well, the best anyone can do when asked something is state his best views about the facts are. For example, assume that the real fact of the matter (eg from God’s perspective) is that the light was red. A witness nevertheless believes that the light was green. The witness is not God and can’t say what the facts are. The best he can do is say what he believes the facts are (namely that the light was green). So he can be required to testify that the light was green, even though the content of his belief is expressed in work product.
Likewise if P is asked whether the light was red,
he must
answer as he believes. Simply because
the content of his belief is expressed in work-product does not mean it
is not
discoverable. But he cannot be required to answer about what the witness believes, for it is not P’s view
about the facts.
33. Question
about assignment to create diversity.
Q.
I was working on my outline this morning and I have a question. In
looking at the TA's outline, I noticed that she had "one can create
diversity by not joining an un-needed party, moving before the claim is
filed, or assigning your claim." However, right after that, she has the
case of Kramer v. Caribbean Mills which I though established that you
could not improperly join a party in order to get federal jurisdiction.
Could you please reconcile these 2 things for me? I am a bit confused.
Thanks.
A.
Some assignments will be insufficient to create diversity. An example
is the assignment in the Kramer case. But the genuine assignment of
one's interest in a lawsuit would be able to create diversity. If A(NY)
sells his interest in his contract suit against B(NY) to C(NJ) for,
say, $200K, with no funny business of the sort that occurred in Kramer
(where most of C's recovery was to be returned to A as a "bonus"), then
C will be able to sue B in diversity.
On the other hand, if this is done, it will no longer be A's lawsuit
that is brought in diversity, so this isn't really a case of A turning his own lawsuit into a diversity
case.
34. Question about direct
estoppel.
Q.
What is difference b/n
collateral and direct estoppel?
In
direct estoppel, the claim
is the same. For example, assume P sues D in federal court in
The
following is another
example of direct estoppel. P sues D for negligence in a state court
system in
which the law of claim preclusion does preclude P from first suing for
property
damages and then suing for personal injury. In the first suit for
property
damages it is determined that D was negligent. P then sues for personal
injury.
The claim is the same. But D is issue precluded from relitigating his
negligence.
35. Question about claim preclusion in
toxic tort cases.
Q.
P
sues D for mild asbestosis caused by asbestos exposure. P receives
damages.
Years later, he develops deadly
mesothelioma, a cancer caused by asbestos. P sues D for
this harm. Claim precluded?
The use of such an exception to claim preclusion outside of asbestos cases is less common. It remains very possible that claim preclusion (not to mention the statute of limitations) will bar a suit for new injuries that the plaintiff could not have known about at the time of the original suit.
...Q.
I'm
still not exactly clear on some of the privity issues. If a
parent acts
on behalf of her child and then brings her own suit for a car accident
the
parent would be precluded because she controlled the litigation of her
child?
she would be issue precluded?
I understand
the executor of the will a little better. when acting for the
decedent
the executor is taking over that cause of action and in a sense putting
themselves
in the other person's shoes. It seems, however, here that the
mother
would have her own legitimate claim separate from her child.
A.
A number of people have asked me to clarify the issue of privity that is result of the control of litigation, especially when there is a change of capacity (eg one sues first as guardian and then as an individual). These issues were brought up in connection with the Bernhard case. As you will see, you were right to ask questions here.
First of all, as I said in class, if P brings an action in the capacity as a representative of X (eg as guardian), it should be obvious that X is subsequently issue (and claim) precluded, because a relationship of privity exists between P when acting in that capacity and X.
Second, as I also said in class, a relationship of privity can exist (allowing for issue preclusion of the nonparty) when the nonparty controlled the earlier litigation. (This incidentally would not necessarily mean that there would be claim preclusion.) Here are some examples (from the Second Restatement of Judgments section 39):
A brings an
action against C for damages to A's property allegedly resulting from
C's negligence.
B, an insurance company that insured C against liability, assumes
defense of
the action. A judgment in favor of A is preclusive on B as to the
issues
determined in the action.
A brings an action against B, a corporation, in which one of the issues is the value of a certain object of property. C, the principal stockholder of B, controls the defense of the action. The determination of the value of the property is conclusive upon C in a subsequent action between him and A.
Notice that it not
enough that the
nonparty is represented by the same law firm, helped
to finance the litigation, appeared as an amicus
curiae, or testified as a witness.
The level of control of the previous litigation must be higher than
that.
Third, let us consider
the Bernhard
case. Remember that Bernhard as a beneficiary of Sather’s estate first
sued
Cook. It was determined that the money at issue was a gift from Sather
to Cook.
Next Bernhard, as administratrix of Sather’s estate, sued Bank of
America for
the same money. The main issue of the case was whether a nonparty (Bank
of
America) could use issue preclusion against Bernhard (this was an
example of
defensive nonmutual issue preclusion). The court concluded that BofA
could. But
we also briefly discussed the following problem: Even if nonmutual
issue
preclusion is allowed, the person who is precluded must have been a
party or in
privity with a party in the earlier litigation. So the question arises:
Why was
Bernhard, in her capacity as administratrix of Sather’s estate, bound
by
litigation pursued by Bernhard, in her capacity as a beneficiary of
Sather’s
estate?
This is what Traynor
himself says on
this
matter (p. 729-30 in the case book):
The plaintiff
has brought the present action in the capacity of
administratrix of the estate. In this capacity she represents the very
same
persons and interests that were represented in the earlier hearing on
the
executor's account. Inthat proceeding plaintiff and
the other
legatees who objected to the executor's account represented the estate
of the
decedent. They were seeking not a personal recovery but, like the
plaintiff in
the present action, as administratrix, a recovery for the benefit of
the
legatees and creditors of the estate, all of whom were bound by the
order
settling the account. The plea of res judicata is therefore available
against
plaintiff as a party to the former proceeding despite her formal
change of
capacity. 'Where a party though appearing in two suits in different
capacities
is in fact litigating the same right, the judgment in one estops him in
the
other.'
The reason that
Bernhard as administratrix of Sather’s estate is
bound is because, as administratrix, she is representing, among others,
Bernhard in her individual capacity, insofar as she is one of the
beneficiaries
of Sather’s will. The situation is really similar to the following
case: I sue
X and lose. I then go crazy. My wife, as my guardian, sues Y concerning
the
same issue that was litigated in my suit against X. My wife, as my
guardian, is
issue precluded, because she is representing my interest.
So far so good.
Now for the law on issue preclusion in cases of
change of capacity. Say my wife, as my guardian, sues X and loses. Is
she, in
her individual capacity, issue precluded? Consider
Alexander v.
Pathfinder, Inc., 91 F.3d 59, 63 (8th
Cir. 1996). The plaintiff mother took an active role in state
administrative
proceedings challenging the discharge of her severely retarded son from
a care
facility. Among other issues, she raised and litigated the argument
that the
discharge was undertaken in retaliation for her complaints. The
administrative
judgment established issue preclusion, defeating her subsequent
retaliation
claim in her individual capacity.
But always
assuming issue preclusion when
there is a switch in capacity can be problematic because of conflicts
of
interest. Consider, once again, the example of my wife. She would have
a
conflict of interest if what she litigates as my guardian would issue
preclude
her as an individual as well. After all, what is good for me might not
be good
for her. We should not require her to make the choice between her own
interest
and mine.
As it turns out,
for precisely these reasons, there is not, in
general, issue preclusion when there is a change in capacity. The only
exceptions, which would explain the Alexander case, is when no conflict
of
interest problem exists. Here is an example from the Second
Restatement of
Judgments section 36:
AIn a collision between cars driven by A
and B, A is injured, B is killed, and C, who is B's wife, is also
injured. A brings an action for his injuries against C as
administratrix of B's estate. Judgment is for A. If C subsequently sues
for her own injuries, she is not precluded from relitigating the issues
determined in the first action.
A.
First of all, if a party simply fails to show up for a deposition, that
party can be sanctioned under R 37(d). As for non-parties, if they fail
to show up, you must make a motion to compel under R 37(a), which
requires "a certification that the movant has in good faith conferred
or attempted to confer with the person or party failing to make the
discovery in an effort to secure the information or material without
court action." If the motion is granted and ignored by the witness,
this will result in sanctions under R 37(b). But what if a party or
non-party witness shows up but makes frivolous objections to the
questions asked? You must then make a motion to compel, again under R
37(a). If the motion is granted and ignored, then you can get sanctions
under R 37(b).
40. Question about claim preclusion
for default judgments.
Q.
For res judicata, if a party defaults on a judgment does res judicata
apply? It doesn't seem like it would for issue preclusion,
because that issue hasn't been fully litigated. But I am not so
sure about claim preclusion.
A.
There is claim preclusion for a default judgment (but not issue
preclusion). If P sues D and gets a defualt judgment, P may not sue D
again concerning the same transaction or occurence. Likewise D is bound
by that judgment, so long as it stands. But D can, of course, get the
judgment set aside, if he can show there was no SMJ, PJ etc. If the
judgment is set aside, then neither P nor D is claim precluded.
41. Question about claim
preclusion and R. 41(b).
Q.
Is the claim preclusive effect of a default judgment governed by
R 41(b)? I still can't clearly understand the relationship between
claim preclusion and R41(b).